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a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. we've decided to we're all having such a she great year in the gulf, put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and nat
a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to suggest to a nation that a sort of rising up for action, that the answer to to many guns in our society is to put an rnl aed guard in the class room, i think that wayne la pierre has a problem within the country but also within his organization. >> suarez: he pointed out that when you put up a sign that says gun-free school, this he is a gun-free school zone, that you are telling anybody who might want to commit an armed crime there, that they can come on in and no one will shoot back. >> i must tell you, i mean he was speaking in english but be
and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to...
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see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>> democratic congressman pass quell and congresswoman swartz will join us. tomorrow, the nra holds that big news conference we have been waiting for. will the organization announce support of gun control legislation? that's the gut check question of the day. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of pu
see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>>...
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>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to
>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off,...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." the washington post assigns a certain number of pinochios to politicians that might be factually challenged. we were part of the big ones saying that je
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back at 2008 and the court decision at that time regarding washington, d.c.'s gun control law, how might that decision come into play if at all. >> it's going to in some way. in a very narrow sense what the supreme court decision stands for is a very important thing. for the first time in american history the supreme court defined the second amendment. it said it does apply to an individual right to own a gun but it stands only for the constitutional right to possess a handgun in the home for self-defense. it doesn't say anything a
the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back...
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the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious, violent video games. i mean, we have blood-soaked films out there. a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke. and they play murder, portray murder as a way of life. and throughout it all, to many in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as conspirators. >> music, video games, videos, at one point he blamed hurricanes for whatever is the bad thing that happens next. but definitely not guns
the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and...
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. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that will take place. what i'm saying is it's not the solution. i want to look f
. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take...
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they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point, michael. there is one guy fighting aggressively mayor bloomberg in new york. >> it's time for the president i think to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do. not go to congress and say what do you guys want to do? this should be his number one agenda. he's the president of the united states. and if he does nothing during his second term, something like 48,000 americans will be killed with illegal guns. that is roughly the number of americans killed in the whole vietnam war. >> cenk: well, mayor bloomberg seems to be indisputablel
they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point,...
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the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, what they think it's crazy not to do it. >> and it's the end of an era for "newsweek" magazine. it's very last print e edition. the magazine will become a digital-only publication. this is a black and white photo and it's of the magazine's old new york headquarters. the 80-year-old "newsweek" fell victim to readers who moved online. in a statement, the editor said "we're making our last momentous change, embracing a digital medium that all our competitors one day will need to embrace. we are ahead of the curve." >>> christmas is upon us and can the fiscal cliff be far behind? the short answer is no. before flying off to hawaii, president obama left behind a stopgap plan to, in his words, agree on what he agree on and lea
the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, what they think it's crazy not to do it. >> and it's the end of an era for "newsweek" magazine. it's...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed away from it. the mere prospect of president obama's being elected caused a huge run on ammunition, police departments were almost running out of it. now many democrats think the situation is different because of newtown and the other mass shootings this year, so i guess we're going to find out whether past is prologue. things have -- things may have changed. we're going to have to see how much they have. >> senators kay bailey hutchison and mark warren yesterday segment nauling their willing tons talk about this, and most likely the conversation leading itself to
if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed...
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nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will spend christmas. but the president says he will return to the white house after the holiday to continue working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining me now, white house editor from politico, rachel smolkin. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> holiday red there, rachel. i will begin with you. is there any realistic timetable where a deal gets done beforian 1? look at the calendar. >> there's a realistic timetable but not an optimistic timetable. not a lot of holiday cheer going on in the nation's capital. after the stunning is heback sp
nra arm school guards. lobbying groups call the arm and trade guards in schools on the same page as the memorial held for the hospice nurse work killed earlier this month. obama offers up kerry as top diplomat. the "los angeles times" has the front page story moviegoing as an endurance test. about how movies like "the hobbit" are epic lengths and smaller theaters say that hurts their profits. >>> president obama's in hawaii today where he and the first family will...
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the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually endorsed by the nra. so clearly, as congressman john yarmouth told us yesterday on ""full-court press"" politicians no longer have to be afraid of standing up against the nra and for sensible gun control. my final comment for today folks. tomorrow's show, we'll be joined in studio by congresswoman rosa delaro and by senator john eudal. go out and have a great one. we will see you back here tomorrow morning. >> this is "the bill press show." deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪
the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually...
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prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our children, we have a responsibility to try it. >> that statement builds on the president's call for congressional action early next year. >> i will be putting forward very specific proposals. i will be talking about them in my state of the union and we will be working with interested members of congress to try and get something done. >> vice president joe biden is leading the push to draft those proposals, and yesterday he began that effort, meeting with law enforcement officials and cabinet members. i want to go right to you, michael eric dyson. you saw as much
prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our...
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the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition, people magazine that has the faces of all those kids on the cover. as time goes on, parents will write a book about their experience. we come to know more about their children. it's not going to go away. it touched such a nerve with people, they are against something that is very different from the past where they could die down and go back to business as usual. i think this is something that touches on every parent's worst nightmare. it's not going to go away. with the strategy, the game is different now. >> i want to reiterate that wayne lapi
the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition,...
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how did the nra end up like this? >> to bar a cliche, this is not your father's nra. the history it used to be more of a sporting group. it supported gun control in 1934 and it supported or endorsed a certain kind of gun control in 1968. it is only since the 1970s that the leadership the nra has hijacked by this radical group that you know, really, you know, engages in the kind of fearmongering and paranoia -- even glenn beck would blush at some of this stuff which is hard to believe. they do it -- i mean it fueled rise in gun sales in ammo sales. ammo sales went through the roof when barack obama became president because they told their members he was going to confiscate people's guns and they're still pushing this message. this puts more money into the pockets of the gun companies and the gun companies funnel that money back to the nra and they use that to outspend gun control groups on lobbying and political fund-raising by 10-1, sometimes by 25-1. >> eliot: you're making a hugely important distinction which is that the nra perhaps is no longer representing its mem
how did the nra end up like this? >> to bar a cliche, this is not your father's nra. the history it used to be more of a sporting group. it supported gun control in 1934 and it supported or endorsed a certain kind of gun control in 1968. it is only since the 1970s that the leadership the nra has hijacked by this radical group that you know, really, you know, engages in the kind of fearmongering and paranoia -- even glenn beck would blush at some of this stuff which is hard to believe....
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let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has more exposure in this debate, i mean if the president read off those things in the state of the union, do you think that would drive a wedge between the average gun owner and the nra's national agenda? >> it would start a debate. look, it's not the job of reporters to carry one side of an argument. if the nra is making an argument and no one is making one against them, it has a consequence for the debate. what the gun control side has lacked for a long time is a powerful grassroots group that actually has the muscle and the money to force the conversation, to force
let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has...
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demonstrators held up signs saying nra, blood on your hands and the nra is killing our kids. critics are blasting today's response about making schools safer. ahead in 9 minutes bay area educators tell fuss more guns would -- teleus more guns would better protect our students -- tell us more guns would better protect our students. >>> a twist on the gun buy back next month. in addition to purchases guns from residents authorities will buy back violent video games. >> you just don't need to have hathat kind of carnage exposed to our young people. and, it -- it will open up the dialogue, i hope, with families to know what is going on. >> the marin gun and buy back is set for january 15th. martin luther king junior's birthday. the video games will be destroyed. >>> in the south bay, the police say they arrested a woman with connection to a deadly home invasion robbery. the authorities say 22-year-old raven dixon was arrested on tuesday on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder along with drug and prostitution charges. venture capitollist was found dead and his wife was beaten
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mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and investigation. >>> an altercation inside an east baltimore school lands one woman behind bars. it happened at the national academy foundation preparatory school. the woman forced her way in carrying a birthday cake. workers say she claims she was visiting a relative but didn't have permission to be there. during a confrontation she pulled out a knife. >>> investigators are trying to determine the cause of a two alarm fire in baltimore county. fite broke out at a home on the 200 block of ashwood road in dundalk. two children escaped after noticing flames. n
mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and...
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the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't say but -- >> when have they done it before? they have never done it before. >> they never have, but when they say they want to give some meaningful contributions, they mean it. >> they'll talk about mental illness, possible checks on mental illness, the video culture of our society, they'll talk about everything but guns. your thought, ron. we have to get out of here, but i don't have any co
the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would...
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made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen, bow and bend over and are afraid
made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be...
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but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in gun safety. i can think of a piece of legislation in 2007, the nixon improvement act to incentive states to report of people to be mentally disabled or a danger to themselves or others or suicidal. in to a national database. that was legislation written by the nra. passed by george w. bush. i would expect to see more efforts along those lines. around mental health. i know because i know the nra that they're interested in having a conversation. but they want to talk about what works. and unfortunately, calling a school a gun-free zone and slapping a sticker on it is an immoshl lack of attention to the issue of s
but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection. >> so, carol, what about the power of the nra as a lobby? everyone knows it is significant. you saw some of the campaign pictures. what kind of power are we talking about when it comes to money and numbers? >> it is not so much about the money. the nra has millions of members, 4 million members or more. that is like having 4 million votes in your pocket. so legislators, lawmakers are elected and know that. they are talking about real votes they may lose if they pass gun control legislation. that is the power of the nra. >> carol costello reporting for us live in atlanta. thank you for that insightfu
of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection....
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and i want to do something. >> shame on the nra. shame on the nra. >> reporter: but mid march they hear this. >> arm the teachers, arm the principals. >> reporter: arm the teachers, arm the principals the man is saying. three days after the second worst school shooting in american history, the debate over gun control wages on the sidewalks outside the largest gun lobbying group in the country. >> perhaps the answer is to allow teachers and principals and other people to defend themselves. >> i can't believe that more guns and guns for everyone is the solution. >> we'll be back. >> it's unacceptable when you see these faces. shame on all of us if we're not doing something about it. >> reporter: in washington, kristin fisher, 9news. >>> as we learn more about the shooting rampage in connecticut, we're learning more about a chilling school threat in northwest indiana. 60-year-old vaughn myer was taken into custody after he allegedly threatened to go to a grade school and kill as many people as he could before police could stop him. he
and i want to do something. >> shame on the nra. shame on the nra. >> reporter: but mid march they hear this. >> arm the teachers, arm the principals. >> reporter: arm the teachers, arm the principals the man is saying. three days after the second worst school shooting in american history, the debate over gun control wages on the sidewalks outside the largest gun lobbying group in the country. >> perhaps the answer is to allow teachers and principals and other...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know...
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the nra has blood on its hands! the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! stop killing our children! stop the reckless behavior of the nra! we need gun control now! >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonize lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away with. away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed or peaceable, lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those tea
the nra has blood on its hands! the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! stop killing our children! stop the reckless behavior of the nra! we need gun control now! >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonize lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but...
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the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have here is, you know, we've got guns, assault weapons that the military would normally use. we've got those in our neighborhoods and in our schools. we can't have that. he talked, mr. la pierre of the nra, talked at length about the monster that is are in our society, but he really, andrea, didn't talk about how we make sure those monsters don't get the guns. i haut it was an effort to try to put forth a solution, but that solution is very, very limited. he never talked about these high capacity ammo clips that are not needed unless you're killing -- trying to kill a lot of
the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have...
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we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> for 30 minutes lapierre went on a tread that was steadfast, unyielded and trying to blame violence on the insane monster that is pop late our society. but it turned into a glimpse inside the mind of the man who makes the nra, the lobbying arm of the firearms industry, tick. it was easily the most riveting, chilling and revealing
we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to...
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but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn its guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply lose in the general election. the public has lost its appetite for the nra's political agenda of unlimited access to guns. >> you know, debra, the nra has remained very quiet in the wake of this tragedy, and often in the wake of other school shootings. and then come out pretty hard against legislation down the road once attention has faded away. do you think it's going to be any different now? do you think there is a change in the public's attitude? >> well, we'll have to wait and see. i can tell you that in tennessee they were quite hypocritical of ho
but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn its guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply...
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would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you see a gun, stop, leave the area. we have child accidents down to the lowest level ever in history. >> here's something you said on friday that struck me because this is really the nub of the argument about armed security. what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? will you at least admit it's possible that 26 little kids, that 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day? is it so abhorrent to you that you'd rather continue to risk the alternative? >> because that's your stan
would the nra be prepared to help financially? is it a budgetary matter feasible? would federal grants be necessary to provide this kind of fire power? >> we have all kinds of foreign aid we do. my gosh, we're doing $2 billion to train the police in iraq right now. with all the money in the federal budget, if we can't come up to do this, there's something wrong. we fund the child safety program right now as a model of the school for kids too young to be around guns. it teaches them if you...
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during the self-imposed blackout the nra took down its facebook page. tonight it's back up again and folks on both sides of the gun control issue are sounding off and weighing in. one person writes i upped to a life membership because i trust the nra to protect americans and their right to keep and bear arms. i hope i don't have to cut up and send my membership card in on friday. another one says you really need assault rifles to defend your home in case someone breaks in. the very guns soldiers carry into war? there should be more restrictions on the sale of assault rifles. a cbs poll shows 57% of americans now support stricter gun control laws and that's the highest it's been in a decade. those in favor of gun control have their work cut out for them. the nra's lobbying budget, 66% greater than the brady foundation, the leading gun control organization. if you're a gun control advocate, you also have to deal with this number. an estimated 3 million americans that already own a rifle called the ar-15. that's the weapon used by the shooter in newtown an
during the self-imposed blackout the nra took down its facebook page. tonight it's back up again and folks on both sides of the gun control issue are sounding off and weighing in. one person writes i upped to a life membership because i trust the nra to protect americans and their right to keep and bear arms. i hope i don't have to cut up and send my membership card in on friday. another one says you really need assault rifles to defend your home in case someone breaks in. the very guns...
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. >> one day after the nra breaks its siler edges, the nation is still split on the gun control debate. thank you for staying with us tonight. i'm maureen ume. >> and i'm laura evans. the edge begins with a discussion that will likely carry on well into the new year, gun policy. regardless of which side of the debate you are on, the goal is ending gun violence. a crowd gathered in the columbia heights neighborhood for a vigil to do just that. the sorry yil and march to a nearby church was in honor of 20 children and six school staff members killed in connecticut. president obama says this is not just an issue for lawmakers and law enforcement. he says it's going to take all americans standing up and saying enough on behalf of our kids. >> with what took place in connecticut, many citizens are feeling a driving force to come out and speak in opposition to the gun violence which plagues our country. >> some people we spoke with tonight support an all-out gun ban. others say there should be a way to cut down on the violence while still protecting the secretary amount. in newtown, the last
. >> one day after the nra breaks its siler edges, the nation is still split on the gun control debate. thank you for staying with us tonight. i'm maureen ume. >> and i'm laura evans. the edge begins with a discussion that will likely carry on well into the new year, gun policy. regardless of which side of the debate you are on, the goal is ending gun violence. a crowd gathered in the columbia heights neighborhood for a vigil to do just that. the sorry yil and march to a nearby...
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the nra's ceo went on tv to defend. as barbara starr shows us, they're not backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. how many more? >> performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. wane laperriere, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political leaders for 20 years always say it's because americans own guns. i tell you what i think will make people safe, and what will make moms and dads feel better. when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy. >> as the last of the newtown massacre victims are laid to res
the nra's ceo went on tv to defend. as barbara starr shows us, they're not backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. how many more? >> performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. wane laperriere, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons...
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he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed armed people. it is the cart before the horse in a way. i don't know. shouldn't we try to be a less violent society first? before we say that -- it is a tough question. >> clayton: you take your kids to school and you hold their hand and you want them to be safe. but is it what you want them to see walking by an armed guard? you want them safe, but is this where we are now as a society? that they have to walk past an armed guard. >> gretchen: maybe it would be conceal i get all of that, but it is still a cultural question for me.
he is the head of the nra. that is thinking and one thing from the nraa point of view is more guns. >> gretchen: that is a great point. as parents, you are kind of hamstrung on this issue. obviously you want your kid toz go to school and be safe whether it is it a shopping mall or movie theater. but i am not sure we are to that point as parents. are we at a point where we are comfortable with this is part of our culture now and that our kids will grow up knowing to be safe they needed...